(EN) Vincent van Meenen
is a Belgian living in Athens. There, he feels useful. There, he feels
accomplished by teaching the immigrants theater, talking and dancing
with them. He loves Athens and the feeling of being useful in this
place.
He studied acting and traveled Europe
and New York like a thirsty migratory. In his childhood, his godfather
told him:” You don’t have to do anything here as long as you take a book
from the library and read it!”, so he did so. Now, he is a writer
creating some amazing stories, trying to keep up his own style. He will
release his first book this autumn and for sure it will be a best seller
in a far away country (this thing with the best seller is a personal
project he won’t give up because his friends won’t let him).
He’s carrying a curse with him: being
interested only by interesting things. He can not do things without
making them vast and without wandering about them: oaaaa! Anyone can
easily find him as an unusual pattern to imitate, but I have no doubts
everyone will fail! Though shaking, his hands are strong and gentle.
Imagine this for a writer! There is a purity he holds inside;
intelligence and kindness are completing each other into his body. He is
a good one and this I can hardly find around me but, most important, he
spreads this good and loving part around him. He has an opinion and
he’s not afraid of saying it, though nothing seems to bother him in the
first place.
“Generosity and kindness are the key to
all life. I will go around Europe and spread this word through my
writings, through my body, through my gestures and behavior. From now
on, world is my Monastery.” This is what he was writing while passing
San Joao d’Arga Monastery, learning generosity from Mario Rocha artist.
This year, he presented the entire text written there during a speech he
held at European Citizen Campus.
I met him in Ruse in a volunteering
program intensively living his life and levitating his own craziness.
For us, volunteers, he was a beautiful and strong man who made us laugh
like crazy, the link between what we were and what we wanted to be. For
me, he was beautiful and still is.
Ana Neacsa: What beautiful people are?
Vincent van Meenen: So, since
in your eyes I am a beautiful person already, I have nothing to be
ashamed of, except for my lack of faith. At best, I am a mixture of a
warrior and a priest. All the other times, I am just Vincent. Beautiful
people are those who have lost their identity, what they believe in,
what they grew up in. If you manage to scratch away this part of your
identity, what remains will be beautiful. Beautiful people often said no
to a lot of things. Beauty is about compassion with what is around.
It’s about the absurdity of our existence, and the awareness of our own
disappearance.
Vincent van Meenen: I believe
in God, in all the gods ever created by mankind, including the ones to
be created in the aftermath. I don’t believe in money though, which I
consider the God of our times. I believe only in inhuman Gods, because
following Jesus makes no sense, nor does it to follow any other holy
saint. Those guys were just following God as well, like we should, our
own proper God. Following the saints is like following the waiter of the
restaurant. It’s the food we want, not the waiter (unless you really
want the waiter because he might just be the temple of your own
fertility-cult).
How you call your God, is up to you to choose. I am a believer of all religions, of everything that is beyond what is here and now. Everything that brings me somewhere else, I will follow. I believe in the white shadow that is everywhere. As an artist, you have the ability to create work with your white shadow that touches the white shadow of a perceiver of your artworks. When two white shadows touch, you are going beyond communication and you touch a part of eternity together. I believe in snail-houses and spirals, in DNA and churches, in Holy places and Leonard Cohen, in equal rights and traditional costumes at the same time (because let’s be honest, traditional costumes are part of the oppression of mankind, wearing a traditional costume makes you bow for whatever paternalistic nationalist believe the ones that invented those costumes believed in.)
How you call your God, is up to you to choose. I am a believer of all religions, of everything that is beyond what is here and now. Everything that brings me somewhere else, I will follow. I believe in the white shadow that is everywhere. As an artist, you have the ability to create work with your white shadow that touches the white shadow of a perceiver of your artworks. When two white shadows touch, you are going beyond communication and you touch a part of eternity together. I believe in snail-houses and spirals, in DNA and churches, in Holy places and Leonard Cohen, in equal rights and traditional costumes at the same time (because let’s be honest, traditional costumes are part of the oppression of mankind, wearing a traditional costume makes you bow for whatever paternalistic nationalist believe the ones that invented those costumes believed in.)
Ana Neacsa: So, you’re writing.
I would like to know what about. What kind of character do you think
world needs and it wasn’t created so far?
Vincent van Meenen: I try to
write for people. What I write about is everything that connects human
beings. This is why I am able to cry in the face of religious tourists,
this is why I love people who are reaching to the sky just to surrender.
We are doing our best, all of us. There is no salvation, not before,
nor after death. The characters needed on this earth are all the
characters whose feet are running upon it. I don’t think the earth can
become a better place than it is.
I believe self-expression and love are the only thing we really need in life, and every moment not spend in either of those stades is wasted. A short life full of love, self-expression and generosity (because in art those two go hand in hand, there is no art without generosity, all art should be free, always, it is like picking a flower for someone and giving it away) is what I am going for.
I believe self-expression and love are the only thing we really need in life, and every moment not spend in either of those stades is wasted. A short life full of love, self-expression and generosity (because in art those two go hand in hand, there is no art without generosity, all art should be free, always, it is like picking a flower for someone and giving it away) is what I am going for.
Ana Neacsa: You do have a point of equilibrium, don’t you?
Vincent van Meenen: Equilibrium
is a concept I don’t believe in. Either you are alive, either you are
dead. As long as you are alive, your body, mind and soul must have found
some equilibrium, because without it, you would be dead.
Ana Neacsa: Are you enough for the world? Is the world enough for you?
Vincent van Meenen: The world
is way too big for me, and I am way to small for the world. I just try
to wonder as much as possible. I’d be happy with a neighborhood. Just a
simple neighborhood where I can drink my coffee, have my bread, buy
vegetables on a local market and drink in a local meeting place with
everyone who feels like it. In some countries drinking alone is
considered a sin. I don’t believe in this. When I drink alone I feel
connected to people long gone. When I smoke alone I feel like
sacrificing myself to the cycle of life and death, and there is not a
single action I undertake without consideration of life and death. We
are skulls and bones, from the beginning till the end.
Ana Neacsa: Can you share with us some of your “pink power”?
Vincent van Meenen: Pink power
is not any different from any other power in the world. Power corrupts.
To be honest, this whole pink power thing is a joke, something we made
up right here.
I don’t feel comfortable without a role in a group, and the role of the joker is often vacant. When you told me that everyone is whirling around me, I felt offended and ashamed, because so often I don’t go with the group, I stay alone in my room and do whatever the moment tells me to do. I try just to be, nothing more, how impossible that may seem. Wherever I receive something, I try to give something in return. In the end I am a very lonely person, just looking for his path, like all of us. I am less extraordinary then people think. Somehow I am just trying to spend the time until I die in a way that makes other people happy, whatever cultural action that takes. I have no borders, perversity is my biggest friend and cultural differences don’t scare me at all. I will adapt like a chameleon and carry the water to where it should be brought. I hope other people find their way to release themselves from any chains that are restraining them.
I don’t feel comfortable without a role in a group, and the role of the joker is often vacant. When you told me that everyone is whirling around me, I felt offended and ashamed, because so often I don’t go with the group, I stay alone in my room and do whatever the moment tells me to do. I try just to be, nothing more, how impossible that may seem. Wherever I receive something, I try to give something in return. In the end I am a very lonely person, just looking for his path, like all of us. I am less extraordinary then people think. Somehow I am just trying to spend the time until I die in a way that makes other people happy, whatever cultural action that takes. I have no borders, perversity is my biggest friend and cultural differences don’t scare me at all. I will adapt like a chameleon and carry the water to where it should be brought. I hope other people find their way to release themselves from any chains that are restraining them.
Ana Neacsa: The most beautiful word in the world is…
Vincent van Meenen: The most
beautiful word in the world is Feltamadunk, which means ‘We shall rise
from death’ in Hungarian, a language almost no one speaks, a language
that has barely any similarities with any other language family. Still
it is not dead. Feltamadunk! For all of us. Because the spirit of love
is eternal, just like the spirit of killing.
Ana Neacsa: It can be seen in
your eyes that you’re still innocent sometimes, maybe most of the times.
How come you managed to keep this so pure?
Vincent van Meenen: Innocence
and wondering come together. If you truly wonder like a child about what
is happening around you, your innocence will be evenly high. It is a
dangerous thing.
Ana Neacsa: Today… what is so magnificent about today?
Vincent van Meenen: Today is
magnificent because it is not yesterday, nor tomorrow. Today is the only
day in which we are able to make a change. Today we can fall in love,
change our religion, change our future or become another being. Today is
where life plays its game. Beyond today is actually nothing, and before
today, nothing was.
Ana Neacsa: There is nothing in the world like…
Vincent van Meenen: There is nothing in the world like a hug.
(RO) Vincent van Meenen este un belgian domicilat in Atena. Acolo se simte implinit. Acolo simte ca are un rost, invatandu-i teatru pe imigranti, vorbind si dansand cu ei. Iubeste Atena si sentimentul de a fi folositor in acest loc.
A studiat actoria si a calatorit in
Europa si New York ca un migrator insetat. Atunci cand era copil, nasul
lui de botez i-a spus: “Nu e nevoie sa faci nimic in aceasta casa atat
timp cat vei lua o carte din biblioteca si o vei citi”, asa ca i-a urmat
indrumarea. Acum, este scriitor si creeaza niste povesti extraordinare,
incercand sa isi pastreze un stil al sau. Va lansa prima carte in
aceasta toamna si cu siguranta va fi best seller intr-o tara indepartata
(treaba asta cu best seller-ul este un proiect personal la care nu va
renunta deoarece prietenii lui nu-l vor lasa).
Poarta un blestem cu el: sa fie
interesat doar de lucrurile interesante. Nu poate face lucrurile fara sa
le dea amploare si fara sa se minuneze de ele: oaaaa! Oricine poate
crede cu usurinta ca e un sablon iesit din comun bun de imitat, dar nu
am nicio indoiala ca oricine va esua. Desi tremuratoare, mainile sale
sunt puternice si blande. Imaginati-va asta pentru un scriitor! Are o
puritate pe care o pastreaza in interior; inteligenta si blandetea se
completeaza reciproc in trupul sau. Este un om bun – un lucru pe care cu
greu il gasesc in jurul meu. Cel mai important, insa, este ca
raspandeste in jur bunatatea si iubirea sa. Are opinii clare si
transante uneori pe care nu ii e teama sa si le dezvaluie, desi nimic nu
pare sa-l nemultumeasca la prima vedere.
“Generozitatea si bunavointa sunt cheia
intregii vieti. Voi merge in jurul Europei si voi raspandi acest cuvant
prin scrierile mele, prin trupul meu, prin gesturi si comportament. De
acum, lumea este manastirea mea”. Asta scria la un moment dat,
aflandu-se in manastirea San Joao d’Arga, invatand despre generozitate
de la artistul Mario Rocha. In acest an, a prezentat intregul text scris
acolo in cadrul unui discurs sutinut in cadrul European Citizen Campus.
L-am intalnit in Ruse intr-un program de
voluntariat, traindu-si intens viata si levitand in propria-i nebunie.
Pentru noi, voluntarii, a fost un om frumos si puternic care ne-a facut
sa radem ca nebunii, legatura dintre ceea ce eram si ceea ce ne doream
sa fim. Pentru mine a fost un om frumos si inca este.
Ana Neacsa: Ce sunt oamenii frumosi?
Vincent Van Meenen: Asadar, din
moment ce in ochii tai sunt deja o persoana frumoasa, nu am nimic de
care sa imi fie rusine, cu exceptia lipsei mele de credinta. In cel mai
bun caz, sunt un amestec intre un razboinic si un preot. In toate
celelalte momente, sunt doar Vincent. Oamenii frumosi sunt cei care
si-au pierdut identitatea, lucrurile in care cred si cu care au crescut.
Daca reusesti sa indepartezi aceasta parte din propria identitate, ceea
ce ramane va fi frumos. Oamenii frumosi au spus adesea “nu” multor
lucruri. Frumusetea este despre compasiunea cu ceea ce este in jur. Este
despre absurditatea existentei noastre si despre constientizarea
disparitiei noastre.
Ana Neacsa: Crezi in…
Vincent van Meenen: Cred in
Dumnezeu, in toti zeii creati vreodata de omenire, inclusiv in cei ce
urmeaza a fi creati. Nu cred in bani, desi ii consider Dumnezeul zilelor
noastre. Cred doar in zeii neumani pentru ca a-L urma pe Iisus nu are
niciun sens, cum nu are sens sa urmezi niciun alt sfant. Acestia L-au
urmat la randul lor pe Dumnezeu, asa cum ar trebui sa ne urmam si noi
propriul nostru Dumnezeu. A-i urma pe sfinti e ca si cand l-ai urma pe
ospatarul de la restaurant. Mancarea este cea pe care o dorim, nu
ospatarul care ne-o aduce (cu exceptia cazului in care dorim cu adevarat
ospatarul pentru ca el ar putea fi templul propriului cult al
fertilitati).
Cum iti numesti Dumnezeul este alegerea ta. Eu sunt un credincios al tuturor religiilor, a tot ceea ce este dincolo de aici si acum. Voi urma tot ceea ce ma va duce in alta parte. Cred in umbra alba care este pretutindeni. Ca artist, ai la indemana propria-ti umbra alba cu care sa creezi, iar aceasta va atinge umbra alba a celui ce iti va percepe creatiile. Cand doua umbre albe se ating, ajung mai presus de comunicare si ating o parte a eternitatii impreuna. Cred in casele si spiralele melcilor, in ADN si biserici, in locuri sfinte si in Leonard Cohen, in drepturi egale si costume traditionale in acelasi timp (pentru ca, sa fim sinceri, costumele traditionale fac parte din opresiune omenirii, pentru ca a purta un costum traditional te face sa te inchini in fata oricarei credinte nationalist paternaliste in care cei ce au creat aceste costume au crezut).
Cum iti numesti Dumnezeul este alegerea ta. Eu sunt un credincios al tuturor religiilor, a tot ceea ce este dincolo de aici si acum. Voi urma tot ceea ce ma va duce in alta parte. Cred in umbra alba care este pretutindeni. Ca artist, ai la indemana propria-ti umbra alba cu care sa creezi, iar aceasta va atinge umbra alba a celui ce iti va percepe creatiile. Cand doua umbre albe se ating, ajung mai presus de comunicare si ating o parte a eternitatii impreuna. Cred in casele si spiralele melcilor, in ADN si biserici, in locuri sfinte si in Leonard Cohen, in drepturi egale si costume traditionale in acelasi timp (pentru ca, sa fim sinceri, costumele traditionale fac parte din opresiune omenirii, pentru ca a purta un costum traditional te face sa te inchini in fata oricarei credinte nationalist paternaliste in care cei ce au creat aceste costume au crezut).
Ana Neacsa: Asadar, scrii. Mi-ar placea sa stiu despre ce. De ce fel de personaj crezi ca are nevoie lumea dar nu a fost inca creat?
Vincent van Meenen: Incerc sa
scriu pentru oameni si scriu despre tot ceea ce conecteaza fiintele
umane. De aceea pot plange in fata turistilor religiosi, de aceea iubesc
oamenii care ajung la cer doar pentru a se preda. Facem tot posibilul,
noi toti. Nu exista mantuire nici inainte, nici dupa moarte. Personajele
necesare pe acest pamant sunt toate acele personaje ale caror picioare
merg pe el. Nu cred ca lumea poate deveni un loc mai bun decat este.
Cred ca auto-exprimarea si iubirea sunt singurele lucruri de care avem nevoie in viata si orice moment care nu este petrecut in oricare dintre aceste stadii este unul pierdut. O viata scurta plina de iubire, impartasire si generozitate (pentru ca in arta acestea din urma merg mana in mana, nu exista arta fara generozitate, tot ceea ce este arta ar trebui sa fie la indemana tuturor, intotdeauna, este ca atunci cand culegi o floare pentru cineva si i-o dai) este ceea ce am de gand sa indeplinesc.
Cred ca auto-exprimarea si iubirea sunt singurele lucruri de care avem nevoie in viata si orice moment care nu este petrecut in oricare dintre aceste stadii este unul pierdut. O viata scurta plina de iubire, impartasire si generozitate (pentru ca in arta acestea din urma merg mana in mana, nu exista arta fara generozitate, tot ceea ce este arta ar trebui sa fie la indemana tuturor, intotdeauna, este ca atunci cand culegi o floare pentru cineva si i-o dai) este ceea ce am de gand sa indeplinesc.
Ana Neacsa: Ai un punct de echilibru, nu-i asa?
Vincent van Meenen: Echilibrul
este un concept in care nu cred. Ori esti in viata, ori esti mort. Atat
timp cat esti in viata, trupul, mintea si sufletul tau trebuie sa fi
gasit un echilibru pentru ca fara el ai fi deja mort.
Ana Neacsa: Esti suficient pentru lumea asta? Estea ea suficienta pentru tine?
Vincent van Meenen: Lumea e
mult prea mare pentru mine si eu sunt mult prea mic pentru lume. Incerc
doar sa ma minunez cat mai mult posibil. As fi fericit intr-o
vecinatate. Doar o simpla vecinatate unde sa-mi beau cafeaua, sa-mi
castig painea, sa-mi cumpar legumele dintr-o piata locala si sa beau
intr-un loc de intalnire autohton cu oricine simte la fel. In unele
tari, este un pacat sa bei de unul singur. Nu cred in asta. Cand beau
singur, ma simt conectat cu oameni care au disparut demult. Cand fumez
singur, simt ca ma sacrific ciclului vietii si al mortii si nu-mi asum
nicio singura actiune fara sa iau in considerare viata si moartea.
Suntem cranii si oase de la inceput pana la sfarsit.
Ana Neacsa: Poti sa
impartasesti cu noi putin din “puterea ta roz” (N.A.: in viata de zi cu
zi, Vincent poarta roz, vorbeste despre “roz” ca fiind o stare de
spirit).
Vincent van Meenen: “Puterea
roz” nu este cu nimic deosebita fata de celelalte puteri din lume.
Puterea corupe. Sa fiu sincer, chestia asta cu “puterea roz” este o
gluma, ceva ce am inventat aici.
Nu ma simt confortabil fara un rol in grup, iar rolul joker-ului este mai mereu liber. Cand mi-ai spus ca toate lumea se invarte in jurul meu, m-am simtit ofensat si rusinat pentru ca de cele mai multe ori nu merg cu grupul, ci stau singur in camera mea si fac ceea ce imi cere momentul. Incerc doar sa fiu, nimic mai mult, oricat de imposibil ar parea. Oricand primesc ceva, incerc sa ofer ceva in schimb. In cele din urma, sunt o persoana foarte solitara, cautandu-si calea ca noi toti. Sunt mai putin extraordinar decat cred oamenii. Cumva, incerc sa imi petrec timpul pana la final intr-un mod care ii face pe ceilalti fericiti, indiferent de actiunea culturala pe care o implica. Nu am granite, perversitatea e cel mai mare prieten al meu si diferentele culturale nu ma sperie deloc. Ma voi adapta ca un cameleon si voi duce cu mine apa in locul in care trebuie sa ajunga. Sper ca ceilalti sa isi gaseasca drumul prin care sa se elibereze din orice lanturi care ii restrictioneaza.
Nu ma simt confortabil fara un rol in grup, iar rolul joker-ului este mai mereu liber. Cand mi-ai spus ca toate lumea se invarte in jurul meu, m-am simtit ofensat si rusinat pentru ca de cele mai multe ori nu merg cu grupul, ci stau singur in camera mea si fac ceea ce imi cere momentul. Incerc doar sa fiu, nimic mai mult, oricat de imposibil ar parea. Oricand primesc ceva, incerc sa ofer ceva in schimb. In cele din urma, sunt o persoana foarte solitara, cautandu-si calea ca noi toti. Sunt mai putin extraordinar decat cred oamenii. Cumva, incerc sa imi petrec timpul pana la final intr-un mod care ii face pe ceilalti fericiti, indiferent de actiunea culturala pe care o implica. Nu am granite, perversitatea e cel mai mare prieten al meu si diferentele culturale nu ma sperie deloc. Ma voi adapta ca un cameleon si voi duce cu mine apa in locul in care trebuie sa ajunga. Sper ca ceilalti sa isi gaseasca drumul prin care sa se elibereze din orice lanturi care ii restrictioneaza.
Ana Neacsa: Cel mai frumos cuvant din lume este…
Vincent van Meenen: Cel mai
frumos cuvant din lume este “Feltamadunk” care inseamna “Vom invia” in
limba maghiara, o limba pe care nu o vorbeste mai nimeni, o limba care
are prea putine similaritati cu oricare alta familie lingvistica.
Totusi, nu e moarta. Feltamadunk! Pentru noi toti. Pentru ca spiritul
iubirii este etern, la fel ca spiritul de a ucide.
Ana Neacsa: Se poate vedea in
ochii tai ca inca esti inocent uneori, poate de cele mai multe ori. Cum
ai reusit sa pastrezi aceasta puritate?
Vincent van Meenen: Inocenta si
curiozitatea vin la pachet. Daca te intrebi mereu asemeni unui copil
despre ceea ce se intampla in jurul tau, inocenta ta va fi si mai mare.
Este un lucru periculos.
Ana Neacsa: Azi… ce e asa magnific la aceasta zi?
Vincent van Meenen: Aceasta zi e
magnifica pentru ca nu e nici ieri, nici maine. Azi e singura zi in
care e posibil sa facem o schimbare. Astazi ne putem indragosti, ne
putem schimba religia, viitorul sau putem deveni alte fiinte. Astazi e
ziua in care viata isi joaca jocul. Dincolo de azi nu este nimic si
inainte de azi a fost tot nimic.
Ana Neacsa: Nu e nimic in lume la ca…
Vincent van Meenen: Nu e nimic in lume ca o imbratisare.
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